I want to know at what level can we purchase Lyra? I am currently Level 42 and tried to purchase her, but its weird. The Oracle says they have rewarded me with Lyra, but she is nowhere to be found in my generals, and my favor points did not go down at all.
Lyra has been out of stock since some time January 1, so that's most likely why you weren't charged any favor points for her.
Oh that's retarded. Why wasn't she removed from the oracles page and replaced with a new general.
Darn, I wanted this one but started the game too late…
Is it possible to have Lyra released at a later time? I kinda like her cute appearance XP (+the awesome stats!!)
Shes back now, not sure for how long.
Is it possible that this General can only be purchased below a certain player lvl ? She was available to me a lil while back. My girlfriend sees this General at the moment, but now I can only see Dexter as the available General myself.
notice when you check the general page, if she's equipped, it says "(original attack stat of 14) +6" on level 4, that means she was 14 attack on level 1 and on level 4 she'd increased by 6 total attack coming to 22… her max attack is 22… and she gives the player's attack a boost of 6 by her ability, AND… vanquih is eh… 18/18 at level 4, starting at 14/14, and she gives the PLAYER ATTACK STAT a 20 attack boost… pretty good… just equip the general and look at the equipped general window that you cans see at all times… that IS the general's stat… only difference is with heroes like celestia, who has 15/15 at level 4 BUT when attacked, she herself by her effect as clearly stated, gets a… 12 defense? 15 defense boost? something like that… only celestia and one other general have this temporary stat ability, other than them, what you see is what you get and "in crease PLAYER attack by _" means the number on your profile/keep page, not the general's attack itself… go there and look if you want… it even has your stat and to be clear, in green next to it in parentheses a (+##) for your boost… which is applied but clearly shows as specially added on, fyi, ophelia imo is better than vanquish, level 4 is +25/-25 rather than +20/-25
ok…based on the formula for duelling, (hero atk)+(70% hero def)+(Player atk)+(70% player def)…would lyra or vanquish be more powerful for attacking? There's this part in lyra's description that confuses me…+6 atk and +6 player's atk at lvl 4. She also gains a total atk boost of +6 atk at lvl 4, meaning, IF she has a +12 boost to her 22 atk at lvl 4, it's 34 atk and (70%*16) def compared to vanquish's 38 atk and (70%*-8) def (Player's stat nt taken into consideration).
IF not, Lyra would only have 28 atk, making vanquish the harder hitting general…so how much attack does lyra have in the end? The description is not clear enough for me lol. It is mentioned that she gains +2 atk per lvl, yet at lvl 4 her description is +6 lyra's atk and +6 player's atk. Is the (+6 lyra's atk) already included in her displayed atk of 22?
Ok…nvm….I don't have to worry about that cos I just got Skaar deathrune!! Bloody lucky treasure chest :D
She does not get a +6 to attack when equipped (making her att +28), her stats stay at 22/16. The +6 to attack bonus only applies to you (the player). She would have been the strongest General you can buy (w/Kataan in close 2nd), but since the information given in her description is false and misleading, she is a mid to lower strength purchasable General.
Ancient Tome: + 1 def to Lyra
Rune Blade: + 1 att to Lyra
Heart of Elos: + 1 stam when Lyra is equipped
i bought lyra a long time ago, she is my main general since then, but now i notice she can get an extra bonus from items, for bad luck for me i cant buy those items coz i dont see them on the main page, could sme one link the biyung link for those items plz?
DONT CLICK THE LINK THAT SENT BY GIJO7
So is Lyra better for dueling or is Vanquish? Lyra has better general stats, but Vanquish gives a higher attack boost with the defence cost. As far as I see it, Vanquish deals more damage but you receive more as well; Lyra doesn't deal as much as Vanquish but you take less damage.
Lyra is better since when attacking you are also using 70% of your defense.
If you have player attack/defense of 100/100
Lyra (100+6) + .7*100
106 + 70 = 176
Vanquish (100+20) + .7(100-25)
120 + 52.5 = 172.5
The difference gets bigger as the player stats involved get higher.
Based on the calculations provided in this thread, it would seem that Vanquish would be the better choice for High Def/ Low Atk builds since she increases attacks and lowers def.
Lyra would be better for those with more balanced stats that could not afford the def cost that Vanquish imposes.